http://www.techcrunch.com/2007/11/03/asian-blog-ad-network-leaves-some-bloggers-unhappy/#comment-1732759
Harry
November 6th, 2007 at 8:15 am
Nuffnang’s shareholders are all the high traffic aka celebrity blogger from Malaysia and Singapore.
The idea of consolidating higher traffic blogs and sell to advertisers as a package was conceived by Ming as you can see here on Xiaxue’s blog >
http://xiaxue.blogspot.com/2007/05/nuffnang.html
Theoritically, Nuffnang is the manager of those celebrities and together, they sell advertising space to local advertisers.
The part where they promise to include bloggers at the tail end of the blogging scene is all but scam. You can register if you have 20 unique click per day but no, they i havent heard of anyone with 20 click per day having allocated an advertisement. I think many bloggers with 100-200 visits per day are even complaining about earning far too little. As little as just $3. So something is not right, alas nuffnang had clarify that your earnings to the advertised week has nothing to do with your traffic on that advertised week. Duh! What does that mean? Nuffnang pays you according to the traffic you attracted the week BEFORE that advertised week. Duh! How can?
You mean when i advertise for you, it is already decided how much i am going to earn? Isnt that a fraud? If so, then then based on what criteria do they decide which part of traffic do they want to include for their payment calculations? If all unique clicks are counter than why so are some bloggers with as much as 500 clicks per day getting a mere few dollars a week? If you kindly just search nuffnang on googles, you could easily find entries which read “nuffnang-earnings-too-low”.
Obviously nuffnang had their concept about the business and it is centered around the high traffic blogs, and when i mean high, i mean 10k-20k traffics a day. Blogs like kennysia.com or shaolintiger and a few others.
Meanwhile they continue to hold events and invite celebrities to be part of crew staging the events as you can easily find video clips in youtube if you refuse to believe this part.
And they would post on their personal blogs about the “successful” event and they are doing this for nothing more than their passion for community. Duh?! Are they putting up a show only?
So far, they have not delivered what they promised in the beginning. I understand courses would change and your business focus might change along the way but no, being manipulative along the way trying to lead bloggers on especially those innocent bloggers who were serious about this Asia’s Advertising Community(or so they call themself) coming onto local scene and giving them a chance of monetizing their blog.
Nuffnang are nothing more than the common “Get Rich” scam you can find anywhere online trying to “teach” you how to make money. Peace out.
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Tuesday, November 6, 2007
Celebrity Bloggers
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QuotesNo amount of media coverage or publicity can cover up for the lack of deliverance, in my blog at least. If any more friends (especially those with unique visits lesser than mine) ask me about Nuffnang, two words - FORGET IT! - Endoh Maybe the person concern should reflect more on itself- Claudia I got an ad this week! Can I boost earnings by asking more friends/visitors to visit my blog? According to Nuffnangs faq, What you earn depends on the number of Average Unique visitors you received in the week before your ad campaign is served. So by the time you know you got an ad coming, its too late to boost the stats. So play hard on your blog every week, not only on the week ads are served. That should keep you on your toes! - Anonymous If a blog has lower traffic, we cannot ask the advertiser to pay fortunes for it. They pay based on how much traffic a blog gets.- Boss Stewie ... my latest Nuffnang Nike ad only garnered me.....$1.70 PUI!!!! Not even enough for Laurens daily allowance.- Honeymeow An envelope also doesnt cost 20 cents, where do you buy your envelopes? If you want to charge $1.00, dont tell people its because of this and that, just charge it against their earnings. No one, except you, know how much they are making anyway. So why make the charge visible and risk the ire of the community? Consider that so many of the bloggers carrying your banner are giving you FREE advertising and at the same time giving you the means in which to make a living (without them you have nothing). - Entrepreneur | October 7th, 2007 at 8:28 pm Labour includes time taken to print out the letter, verify the amount, pack it, and send it off. Labour is more or less subsidised and free in this instance. - Boss Ming Whilst my peers are making money in comfy jobs in banks or consultancy firms, I have to rely on my family to support my mobile phone bill. Taking an allowance at the age of 24 is not exactly my cup of tea. - Boss Ming In addition to this there is the postage fee, which by 1st local is 25 cents each (for a stamp). The envelope costs 20 cents each. This brings it up to 95 cents, which means 5 cents for the paper, ink and labour. - Boss Ming Ive been hosting a Nuffnang banner on my blogs for almost 6 month. Until now I only earn RM1.40 from Firefly Skyscraper 2 which being displayed on my blogs from 01 Jul 2007 - 07 Jul 2007. I really don’t know why Nuffnang can’t gives me the good earning eventhough my blogs traffic is good enough - Anonymous I also had quite a shock discovery in the past. I ran Nuffnang & Advertlets around the same time, interchanging their banner positions for experiment. 1 month later, while advertlets was earning RM100 (i did not do review for them), Nuffnang gave me only 20 cents! What a mystery. It still has not solved until today. Ppl say I didn’t earn much from nuffnang because of the low traffic but I doubt so. - Zul With so many thousands(up to 10,000) of blogs *as claimed*, only a hundred or less blogs are selected to advertise. Where do the rest fit in? Nowhere. And so for 80-100% of the time, the remaining thousands run free advertisements for Nuffnang that screams at the eye 'I Serve Nuffnang Ads'. The waiting time is ridiculous and eventually if any, there is not enough Ads to get a Pay Cheque Out because of the minimum sum of $50 to withdraw plus the deduction of $1 for Administrative fee. - Molemole Have you ever attended any Blog Parties organised by Nuffnang and got to meet other bloggers? Then again... most events (if any) are reserved for people 'closer' to Nuffnang's Co-owner aka Ming. You can almost guess who they are from the Feature Bloggers in the Web. They almost always appear at all Events and huddle together in one group that is almost impossible to penetrate or if you do, meet the hostile glare that says - we're in the middle of our own conversation and you're not welcomed, and you are made to look awkwardly out of place.- MoleMole I have been using Nuffnang as part of my online monetization tools on one my high traffic blogs for quiet some time now and I am not at all happy with it! :-( I can’t believe that I only earned a pathetic Malaysian 0.30 cents from it. It is utterly ridiculous! I even made more money from Advertlets! I made the decision to totally remove my Nuffnang ads from my high traffic blog a few days back. -Homebis Congrats on hitting 4k members. Having more members does push your operational cost up. But at the same time, the profits should be increasing at the same rate-if not higher. So if Nuffnang is able to increase their profits the same rate as their membership, then there shouldn't be any problems already. Right? But if Nuffnang is unable to increase their profits at the same rate as their membership, then I think even the $1 transaction fee isnt going to help the company in the long run. Is having more members pulling the company down? - Anonymous Ming, if you have not get paid from advertisers, then will you return back us $1 when you finally get paid? - Sharon Boasting about how much advertising they have to bloggers isnt exactly the right mentality to have. No matter how much advertisers you have, are of no meaning to blogger if they arent getting the adverts. Maybe applicable to high end blogs but please be sensitive to lower end. - Bupa Please stay humble and not telling bloggers you have so much advertisers, if you really really have so much advertisers, then give us some advertisement!! - Cheeze Ming - We have decided not to comment on the $1 issue, primarily because we feel it will divide the blogosphere and fan the flames of controversy. Coward -Then why are you commenting here since you said your company decided not to comment on this issue? I see you commenting at several other blogs too. It seems to me that you are only commenting on your supporters blog and not your critics. Weird move I must say. Coward -Tim, please stay humble, dont let these few adverts get into your head. You havent achieve nothing with these advertisers though i must say they are big companies. You should look at how those tail end bloggers are not benefitting from you doesnt matter you can attract the biggest company in the world |
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